Samantha S. Reiter1 with Geesche Wilts2
1Editor The European Archaeologist
2Miss Jones
*Editors note: The interview has been condensed in the following written version with the knowledge and consent of the interviewee. For a full account of TEA’s interview with Geesche Wilts, you are invited to view the video.
TEA: Could you tell me a bit about Miss Jones, your archaeology blog?
G. Wilts: The name is the easiest. I was always an adventure-loving girl, but I was sick of the Indiana Jones stereotype. He was always the ‘cool guy’…but [why] couldn’t it be a ‘cool girl’? When I was watching Indiana Jones as a teenager, I thought ‘I want to be him!’ I really liked the movies, and I wanted the…girls screaming my name. I wanted to show [with the blog] that females can do this, too, but that archaeology is also more.
At the beginning, I took the famous name of Jones, and made it for girls. I wanted all girls to get the feeling that they could be Miss Jones, no matter skin colour or….background. Anyone could be Miss Jones. I wanted to [make a place which encouraged people to] be whatever kind of woman they wanted, where you didn’t have to stick to the rules. I did not get the feeling in my childhood that women should be self-confident. So, [perhaps] it is a little less about getting everyone into archaeology [than it is] about getting people to go after their dreams.
TEA: Who is your readership?
G. Wilts: I am dyslexic. This can be a bit confusing for people. But there are a lot of parents of dyslexic people who want to have a role model for their kids. I…want to write for young girls who don’t know what they want to do with their lives. There are a lot of young people I know. Punk teenagers, and they have a lot of [very] interesting and intelligent questions. I teach myself how to answer, because I talk a lot with teenagers. I write [the blog] for them. Queer, punk rock teenagers.
TEA: How long have you been blogging?
G. Wilts: I started my first blog when I was twelve years old! But I started Miss Jones in 2015.
TEA: Is it hard to come up with new ideas, or is it more difficult to restrain yourself?
G. Wilts: More the second! I have so many ideas that I cannot decide. Some articles take a long time to research. I’ll go through the library hundreds of times and [the post] gets longer and longer and longer. Then I think, ‘maybe I should cut this into two or three [separate] posts’. Others [I have to continue to work on] because they are still not as readable [as I would like]. They are too hard, there is too much information. Then, I have to think about how to change [that].
As far as topics are concerned, I am swimming in them. My strategy is to always post on a new topic which is different from the last [post]. I don’t want to do two weeks Stone Age in a row, not two weeks Germany….I want to be able to jump [around] the planet and [across] time zones [with the posts]. The longest part [of the process] is shortening the article to make it really good…My goal is to make an archaeological [blog] which is as good as a magazine. That you can count on.
[Personally], I want to be Miss Jones. I want to go around the world, explore all four corners ideally on foot. Now, it’s funny when I tell this to other people. Archaeologists are used to crazy people. [Other people] are surprised. I want to have adventures. The blog is about archaeology and travel, so it fits.
In September (2023), I hope to walk from Firenze to Pisa1. I will start my walking trips. I will show my adventures. I will show what I have seen, and what it means and the history behind it. I did a few museum visits and critiques, but people don’t really like to read it. …But I always try new things. When I see that something doesn’t work, I try [something else].
G. Wilts on museums: I know a lot of German museums, and some of them are not good. They aren’t good because they cannot pick people up where they stand. Labelling old pottery as ‘old pottery’ doesn’t help. Some great exhibitions have wonderful ideas, but then people can’t always understand what the text is about, or why certain things are being shown. It’s hard.
TEA: Do you have any ‘forbidden’ topics? Things that you don’t want to talk about?
G. Wilts: Yes and no. I am a really political person, so I sometimes make articles which have big political content… This can be hard. Because then you have—as you already realize—as a queer person [who is] part of punk rock scene, I may be a little left, and then [some readers] may be right wing. It can be scary. It took me a long time and I did a lot of research before writing about certain things.
…These past few months I have come back to myself and to my old wishes. For a long time, I was scared. I was scared to tell people I am bisexual. I was scared. For example, I once posted on the question—a reader question of—"was Caesar gay?”, which I thought was a really good question for Christopher Street Day [an annual European LGBTQ+ celebration].
I got a lot of homophobic messages. Especially from archaeologists. Some of the words [that were used] I don’t even know in English. I don’t even use them in German, because they are so awful. But I tried to survive.
The other topic which is really hard is genetics. I [wrote an article] which didn’t even discuss [genetic] results. It was [about] DNA and how it works. I took it down. Readers’ reactions were more like “You are a woman. You cannot understand something as intelligent as DNA. You aren’t allowed to talk about it”. I had such a high number of such messages that I didn’t write about genetics for a long time. But, soon comes my first genetics article after a year. I have already prepared it. I am not scared anymore.
When I talk about it to my followers, they say they understand, even though they are sad, because they want to hear about it from a woman. Because they trust me more.
TEA: Are there any journals or blogs that are particularly inspiring for you?
G. Wilts: The magazine Archäologie in Deutschland, the Smithsonian blog “Cool Findings”, “Heritage Daily” or Sapiens. Nature and Science are always on my list. But you have to pay attention, to make sure that the message fits the data.
TEA: Do you find that archaeologists are good communicators?
G. Wilts: No. [Sighs] Because it’s horrible! With some exceptions. For example, I have a colleague here in Germany—Angelica Franz—who writes really good books…She is a really good inspiration, because she has been doing this for a long time. I mean, I read her books as a teenager. Only few [archaeologists] really know how to catch people.
For non-archaeologists, what archaeologists talk about is like Chinese. They don’t understand anything. Which is interesting, as I get a lot of mails from archaeologists who tell me that I should change my writing to make it more ‘professional’. That I should put in citations, for example. Or, that I am wrong when I say ‘Halstatt culture—what you might know as ‘Celts’”. They [get upset], saying ‘Celts’ is not the right word. Or, not giving exact tool types and labelling something as an ‘axe’, when [according to the expert on that particular tool type], “everyone on the planet knows that this axe is an [xyz] type axe!!!” I got hate messages from archaeologists who do not understand that I am writing for people from the public. They live in their own bubble, and think that everyone is living in the bubble.
TEA: Is blogging your full-time job?
G. Wilts: No. Well. Yes and no. Making it as good as possible is a full-time job. But as I do not make enough money with it to live [off of] it, I have another job, which finances my [blogging]. The one job is jobbing to make money, and the other job is working where I do archaeology. And none of those other jobs are archaeology-related, unfortunately. I got the Deutscher Studienpreis [German Student Prize] for the best Master’s Thesis, and [still] people don’t give me a job.
TEA: Are you sponsored?
G. Wilts: No, I have no sponsors. I have regular readers who send me tips. This I have. I have tried to get sponsors. There are UNESCO programmes, or companies involved in hiking, like Jack Wolfskin. Unfortunately, the usual response to my sponsorship requests is that they ignore me.
On the other hand, I do get invited to attend events and conferences. I was at DGUF, working together with them. DGUF is the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Ur und Fruhgeschichte [the German Association of Pre and Early History]. I was sometimes invited to museums, but I stopped doing it. They make a ‘social media day’ in which they invite other social media people, but the others [who attend] do not have an archaeological background. They might be a city blogger [on Hamburg] and stand there talking about how it’s so great and amazing…and I think to myself. ‘No! It’s wrong. I know it’s wrong.’ But if you are surrounded by these people and with the head of the museum in front of you, you have to post on Twitter. You have to post on Twitter to get invited again…but you cannot post ‘this is rubbish.’ There is pressure about saying that things are good, even when they are not.
What worked out better was being invited by museums to write about them. I first talked with them [and said] that I would maybe criticize them. Once they said, ‘please, if you make a criticism, can you tell us before. You will make an evaluation of our museum not only as an archaeologist, but also as someone who has not seen our museum before, so you will see things that we don’t see.’ And then they changed things. I saw it, and I [caused something to be] changed. I guess it was good for both of us.
TEA: I saw online that you have a “’Miss Jones’ of 2023” initiative. Can you tell me what that’s about?
G. Wilts: On Women’s Day (8th of March), I try to name the ‘Miss Jones’ of the year every year. I try to name a woman who has done something that is really exciting and great, and maybe related to cultural history. I try to pick adventure girls or strong political persons and archaeologists. This is important. This year it is Margarita Bieber. She was chosen through collaboration with ArkArcha, a research project which hired me as a social media person.
But if you want to be Miss Jones of the year, you have to be dead. It’s only about dead people!
G. Wilts on politics: I think sometimes archaeologists have a lack of understanding of being political. There will soon come an article in the German theoretical journal Kritische Archäologie in which I write that combining activism and archaeology is a chance for everyone because we can show that our methodology and our style of thinking can change a lot. We can help research about political topics. For example, I will be in Lampedusa [Italy] to do research about the refugee boats there. We can do a lot of good things. We can just do it! Everyone is scared about it. Yes, in the Nazi times, the SS was using all this racist stuff. But we are now the people in the subject who are able to stop this and to not misuse archaeology [but] to use archaeology.
TEA: Will the blog eventually become a permanent thing, or do you want to keep it as a passion?
G. Wilts: For me, it is impossible to do things without passion. I am not someone who thinks so much about the future. I don’t think about [where I am going to be] in ten years. We only have one life. As archaeologists, we know that we have this long past of human history. We know that a lot of people are already dead, and that we are going to die [one day]. In [thinking of] my future plans and my past, I never live today. I want to live today. I want to write with passion, because this is what I love.
I was very politically active. I have been living in squatted housing, been arrested, been in prison. I got into more trouble than many other archaeologists. I learned by myself that I don’t want to hide. I am proud of what I am doing. Fighting against homelessness, fighting for queer people is nothing [for which] I want to hide.
So, I changed my mind. When I started Miss Jones it was completely something else. …I did not show my face…but then I found out as I was writing the first political articles, that I [would] use my name, because I had the experience that the media would take my life story and make money with it. And [if] I never show my face and give my name, I cannot prove it.
For example, there was a musical [made] about the squat I was living in in Vienna. They made a musical out of it! Of myself and my squat friends…my family. They made a musical out of it! This is so ridiculous. And I cannot say anything about it, because we never say our names. I decided that I want to be the boss of my history, so I changed this.
TEA: Do you have any advice for young archaeologists just starting out? These young girls who don’t know what to do with their lives? What would you say to them?
G. Wilts: Do. Do. And do what you like to do.
1Editor’s Note: Since this interview took place, Geesche Wilts’ plans changed. Instead of walking from Firenze to Pisa, she instead travelled to Lampedusa to do contemporary archaeology on refugee boats. This project was accepted thereafter by Kiel University as a PhD project.
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